tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post1641298009853011373..comments2024-02-26T12:53:35.542+05:00Comments on The Republic of Rumi Blog: Forecasting the FutureKhurram Ali Shafiquehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-60236641520278157082009-03-05T01:35:00.000+05:002009-03-05T01:35:00.000+05:00Imran Ashraf, Wasim Dar, Ahmad Bhai and Rizwan, th...Imran Ashraf, Wasim Dar, Ahmad Bhai and Rizwan, thanks. 'Shama Aur Shaer' requires a detailed post, which will be coming soon. Every prophecy made in that poem has been fulfilled but we are trapped in our "illusions" (as Wasim Dar says in a somewhat different manner), like the inhabitants of MATRIX, except that they were living in a devastated world and believed it to be good, we are living in a good world and believe it to be devastated. The only thing which is devastated is our soul, and that is why we cannot see things "as they are".<BR/><BR/>Ahmad Bhai, the purpose of that comment about Time and Space was to provoke comments. That having been fulfilled, I won't perceive Time as a dimension of Space if you say so, because you are a better authority on this subject than I am :). I hope you will also answer the question raised by Rizwan. I can only say to Rizwan, there is difference between fantasy and imagination (call them by any names). There is a type of imagination which was regarded by Sufis as a window to the Realm of the Soul. The revelations of this imagination are real and as trustworthy as physical experiences. To me, it seems that this sort of imagination is faster than the speed of light. Don't get trapped into cobweb of archaic terminology if you want to know more about this kind of imagination. Delve into a careful study of "consensus literature" and you shall find better answers than are available through theoretical discussion.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-7762504441245675052009-03-05T01:09:00.000+05:002009-03-05T01:09:00.000+05:00"It's the access to higher dimensions that could t..."It's the access to higher dimensions that could take a mortal from farSH to arSH in the blink of an eye."<BR/><BR/>So we aren't limited! We can see BEYOND dimensions! How is it possible?<BR/><BR/>What do you think about <B>imagination</B>? It is faster than the speed of light..<BR/><BR/>-rIZMuhammad Rizwan Jabbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09148411855550576465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-25308534131172916892009-03-04T20:21:00.000+05:002009-03-04T20:21:00.000+05:00"So far you've wondered if Time is a dimension of ..."So far you've wondered if Time is a dimension of space. I am inclined to perceive space as a dimension of Time."<BR/><BR/>Saying this you are mixing Zamaan-o Makaan. Space (makaan) has three dimensions for our mortal world, zamaan (time) is a separate dimension. So you can uniquely define a location in the world by assigning identifiers (numbers) to the three coordinates (or any transformation thereof). What happens at that location at different times could be the kaifiyet o that makaan in various zamanay (times) again defined uniquely) <BR/><BR/>It is the further higher dimensions that we mathematically could define but do not have the physical understanding of. My idea is that the higher your level of Irfan is, the more dimensions you can comprehend and utilize. It's the access to higher dimensions that could take <B>a mortal</B> from farSH to arSH in the blink of an eye. <BR/><BR/>Ahmad...Ahmad Safihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03571126641349157715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-64389227395407802352009-03-04T13:43:00.000+05:002009-03-04T13:43:00.000+05:00You have rightly poited out that we have to revisi...You have rightly poited out that we have to revisit our sources like Iqbal, Rumi and others to carve destiny for ourselves that so far seems like an illusionAkhtar Wasim Darhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09635876866214567866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-36362989021744075602009-03-04T13:40:00.000+05:002009-03-04T13:40:00.000+05:00You have rightly poited out that we have to revisi...You have rightly poited out that we have to revisit our sources like Iqbal, Rumi and others to carve destiny for ourselves that so far seems like an illusionAkhtar Wasim Darhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09635876866214567866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-3425848635228395882009-03-04T10:38:00.000+05:002009-03-04T10:38:00.000+05:00Dear Khurram sb, since you mentioned Iqbal here sa...Dear Khurram sb, since you mentioned Iqbal here saying that key themes in the works of Iqbal was forecasting the destiny of one’s nation, my mind is drawn towards Iqbal's epic poem "Shama aur Shaer". I would like to ask with reference to the last stanza of this poem that how will you relate Iqbal's forecasting with your current analysis of future of this country. Can it be related or are we just focussing on Pakistan whereas Iqbal talked about the entire world in a big picture ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com