tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post8828912399566355072..comments2024-02-26T12:53:35.542+05:00Comments on The Republic of Rumi Blog: Iqbal and Quran: "the new method"Khurram Ali Shafiquehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-22524271721487546012012-08-11T03:38:27.579+05:002012-08-11T03:38:27.579+05:00Does the stage of bekhudi come after stage of firs...Does the stage of bekhudi come after stage of first building the khudi? After we develop our Khudi we can use it for the betterment of the nation..Is that how it is mean to be?Waris Misbahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06159335545281912175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-91360920224045907942012-08-06T18:16:49.295+05:002012-08-06T18:16:49.295+05:00Greetings,
Yes! :)
All good wishes,
robertGreetings,<br /><br />Yes! :)<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-24980595664569308432012-08-05T23:28:37.585+05:002012-08-05T23:28:37.585+05:00Thank you very much. I highly recommend Quran Expl...Thank you very much. I highly recommend <a href="http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">Quran Explorer</a> to everyone who is interested in Islam, whether out of belief or mere curiosity. The website is most certainly a must-visit.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-10820601505426789672012-08-05T23:25:49.183+05:002012-08-05T23:25:49.183+05:00Of course the new method is not so new any more. I...Of course the new method is not so new any more. I learnt much of it from Bruce Lee when I was a kid - didn't you?Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-63259366271885464692012-08-05T23:24:23.500+05:002012-08-05T23:24:23.500+05:00Thanks for your support.Thanks for your support.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-51956952406987327422012-08-05T23:24:05.545+05:002012-08-05T23:24:05.545+05:00By understanding the goal which our nation is supp...By understanding the goal which our nation is supposed to fulfil in the present times. I hope to share some special insights about this on August 14 this year.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-10435166369390263882012-08-05T23:21:14.357+05:002012-08-05T23:21:14.357+05:00Thanks. I shall try to answer these questions soon...Thanks. I shall try to answer these questions soon.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-59314983477946226412012-08-05T18:50:31.476+05:002012-08-05T18:50:31.476+05:00i am visually challenged, instead of reading i fin...i am visually challenged, instead of reading i find it much easier to listen to translation here: http://www.quranexplorer.com/Quran/Default.aspx.raziahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05958242490148056493noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-53401604974807993082012-08-05T17:32:12.163+05:002012-08-05T17:32:12.163+05:00Greetings,
Thank you for including this video (pa...Greetings,<br /><br />Thank you for including this video (particularly one with English subtitles).<br /><br />I did not not watch it until after I had written my first response. I have now watched it.<br /><br />I see that my request for more elaboration on "the new method" has been answered. Perhaps (?) "the new method" is not so new.<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-45958004450852410372012-08-05T17:14:56.289+05:002012-08-05T17:14:56.289+05:00Greetings,
Thank you very much for this post.
Th...Greetings,<br /><br />Thank you very much for this post.<br /><br />This post conveys to me the odd phenomenon of how we strive to express ourselves, to become individuals, to be persons, and so on. And yet these ways of seeking real-ness (which seem right but apparently lack real merit) have led us to a collective heartache in which, as you say, we find ourselves having become unreal.<br /><br />I also note how you cite that a failure to understand Iqbal is due to reluctance to accept what he believed. If Iqbal taught from a Quranic foundation (which I understand he did), then, perhaps, contributing to a lack of understanding of his works and philosophy (and so being unable to put them to practical use) may be the elevating of different interpretations of the Quran and Islam above Iqbal's. Along these same lines, I think that one can also be confused into buying into the worldly image of despair and hopelessness, this also causing one to minimize and/or dismiss the utterly genuine gold of Iqbal.<br /><br />I very much like how you end it. Let us try it out. <br /><br />I look forward to your continuing teachings on this. I am a particularly interested in your elaborations on the the "how" of "the new method."<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-45195847273965799232012-08-05T16:58:38.961+05:002012-08-05T16:58:38.961+05:00This is very useful post which quite profoundly a...This is very useful post which quite profoundly and clearly describes Iqbal's point of view of the importance of collective consciousness of a people, nation and humanity. This aspect of Iqbal's thought has always inspired me through your writings and your analysis has made it more and clearer for me all the time.<br /><br />Personally have pondered on following verses of Quran which are so inimitable about collectiveness:<br />1) See what Abraham's prays while raising foundations of Kaaba, he did not pray about himself or his family but about a nation:<br />“our Lord! And make us submissive unto Thee and our seed a nation submissive unto Thee” (2:128 ) <br /><br />2) And see how Allah created and desired collectiveness of humanity:<br />” Mankind were one community; then they differed” (10:19)<br /><br />3) Further see how on the day of resurrection people would be called in the presence of their Lord, not individually but as a nation:<br />“ and thou wilt see each nation crouching, each nation summoned to its record.” (45:28)<br /><br />4) And see how important is the collective effort of people in the eyes of Allah, the individuals do not matter when bigger scheme of things are discussed:<br />“Allah do not change the condition of a folk until they first change that which is in their hearts” (13:11)Akhtar Wasim Darhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09635876866214567866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-21317788334742342132012-08-05T16:49:53.136+05:002012-08-05T16:49:53.136+05:00This is very useful post which quite profoundly a...This is very useful post which quite profoundly and clearly describes Iqbal's point of view of the importance of collective consciousness of a people, nation and humanity. This aspect of Iqbal's thought has always inspired me through your writings and your analysis has made it more and clearer for me all the time.<br /><br />Personally have pondered on following verses of Quran which are so inimitable about collectiveness:<br />1) See what Abraham's prays while raising foundations of Kaaba, he did not pray about himself or his family but about a nation:<br />“our Lord! And make us submissive unto Thee and our seed a nation submissive unto Thee” (2:128 ) <br /><br />2) And see how Allah created and desired collectiveness of humanity:<br />” Mankind were one community; then they differed” (10:19)<br /><br />3) Further see how on the day of resurrection people would be called in the presence of their Lord, not individually but as a nation:<br />“ and thou wilt see each nation crouching, each nation summoned to its record.” (45:28)<br /><br />4) And see how important is the collective effort of people in the eyes of Allah, the individuals do not matter when bigger scheme of things are discussed:<br />“Allah do not change the condition of a folk until they first change that which is in their hearts” (13:11)Akhtar Wasim Darhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09635876866214567866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-39065544571933062462012-08-05T12:47:55.096+05:002012-08-05T12:47:55.096+05:00Thank you Khurram Sahib, a great riddle is solved!...Thank you Khurram Sahib, a great riddle is solved!<br /><br />Questions;<br /><br />1- How to achieves selflessness ?<br /><br />2- How does one diminishes his or her individual self in the collective ego ?<br /><br />3- How has Iqbal described this new method, which he offers ?sobuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13369788700097644443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-88810974040756812182012-08-05T12:26:49.161+05:002012-08-05T12:26:49.161+05:00this is very disturbing to me....after reading thi...this is very disturbing to me....after reading this, unwillingly my mind drifted away to mirror back my position in social life and position of our nation in world.this is giving an impression that if this is what Iqbal wanted to convey or what was proposed method by God then unfortunately we are devastated one as a nation. because concept of unison is far away from perceptional ground. I am amazed now how we can repair loss and bring back breath of unity in our environment????hena jawaidnoreply@blogger.com