tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post7378753035161025972..comments2024-02-26T12:53:35.542+05:00Comments on The Republic of Rumi Blog: If Words Could KillKhurram Ali Shafiquehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-77660586404015627652012-10-10T21:54:25.896+05:002012-10-10T21:54:25.896+05:00Yes i really apprecite your point of and this is w...Yes i really apprecite your point of and this is what i am doing from 13 years or so. At least one student of mine each year made a pledge to me when passing out from the college that she will change her surrounding whenever at such a position. Although i know this is a very slow process of change but through the very same system we can bring out change. Very well said by you.muzzamilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12476050111561365252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-35404473882498199872012-10-10T21:33:16.509+05:002012-10-10T21:33:16.509+05:00plz suend the link to me also when you get.
Thank ...plz suend the link to me also when you get.<br />Thank youmuzzamilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12476050111561365252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-35202591387684206792012-09-27T18:53:04.191+05:002012-09-27T18:53:04.191+05:00I once read that in order to change the rules of t...I once read that in order to change the rules of the club one needs to join the club. In the context of this post this would suggest a need to reach out to academics in the universities in Pakistan in particular to bring about change. I am sure some of them would appreciate this point of view :)<br /><br />Bushra Bushrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00205540822220663841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-9707855020865293832012-09-24T16:00:15.779+05:002012-09-24T16:00:15.779+05:00“Politics, religion, science and education may als...“Politics, religion, science and education may also have played a role but the primary cause must be sought in the kind of literature which has been venerated by academies and patronized by universities.”<br /><br />I cannot agree more to this statement, the literates in our world always has a last word, and they use this word through the thought structures that literature provides them. Khurram Sahib I think even politics, religion, science and education has played a subservient role to literature as literature provides a field on which are cultivated the political, religious, scientific and educational ideals. Literature is the basic dough from which is prepared all that is in our platter, the sweet, the sour and the bitter. <br />Akhtar Wasim Darhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09635876866214567866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-56088094625767794112012-09-21T23:34:00.097+05:002012-09-21T23:34:00.097+05:00Sir,
I thank you for this elaboration.
You make ...Sir,<br /><br />I thank you for this elaboration.<br /><br />You make a distinction which I think is often missed, and that is that there is an onus of responsibility on the reader to choose - with wise discretion - the kind of literature to take in. It's not that different than making conscious choices of when to eat, what to eat, or even to periodically abstain from eating, all with the goal of sustenance and balanced growth.<br /><br />Thank you again.<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-70027496816571526372012-09-21T09:51:47.661+05:002012-09-21T09:51:47.661+05:00"Why aren't the litterary figures steppin...<i>"Why aren't the litterary figures stepping it up...?"</i> This is an important question. In my opinion, one of the reasons is that these messages were never brought out in simple and clear terms.<br /><br />Mustansar Hussain Tarrar, whom I consider to be the greatest writer alive in Pakistan today, said to me two years ago that he regrets that his seniors did not introduce him to Iqbal properly when he was an emerging writer, about fifty years ago.<br /><br />The scathing honesty and humility with which Tarrar Sahib made this statement can usually be expected only from someone of his stature and integrity. However, it seems that so many people are arriving at similar conclusions in varying degrees and manners.<br /><br />This makes me wonder if it is an inevitable process of learning. Maybe we just had to go through this entire painful cycle of so many decades, and maybe some of the worst experiences through which we passed were necessary in order to enable us for some bigger tasks in the future, which are as yet unknown to us.<br /><br />The best thing is to start taking some actions now.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-60351425211990651182012-09-21T09:07:05.336+05:002012-09-21T09:07:05.336+05:00I am moved by this elaboration because yes, we are...I am moved by this elaboration because yes, we are praising and celebrating those writers in context of best presenter of our society. Recently, I have visited ceremony of this kind in Karachi, regarding one of the big name in Urdu literature. but, if i consider your point Sir Khurram then yes, its making some sense, Whatever we listen , talk about or think in persistent fashion that idea or view dissolves and integrates as our cognitive style and becomes our behavior. <br />Please do share your BBC interview details /link, we will wait. :)many duaen for your success.hena jawaidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-90092556890638006632012-09-21T06:12:17.223+05:002012-09-21T06:12:17.223+05:00By the way, GSP Suri Sahib, I am personally very g...By the way, GSP Suri Sahib, I am personally very glad to see you here again, and feel honoured that you have posted your comment here.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-39257409501460534802012-09-21T06:05:20.068+05:002012-09-21T06:05:20.068+05:00I think as long as there are writers with pessimis...I think as long as there are writers with pessimistic attitude,a <br />country will be in the brink of a catastrophe.Literature is a very powerful tool it can make or break a nation.Iqbal succeeded because he did not surrender he kept on spreading the message of hope through his writing.Because of him others picked up the message and promoted it.India and the Muslims were in a far worse shape,they did not have a country to call their own.To come out of that terrible condition and succeed in having their own country was something unthinkable.It was achieved.Yes there are outside forces,the useless politicians who have nothing better to do.Why aren't the litterary figures, ,stepping it up.If pen is mightier than the sword,why don't we see the results?Ranu 802https://www.blogger.com/profile/00928109626033735690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-52750961518126095632012-09-21T06:01:41.057+05:002012-09-21T06:01:41.057+05:00Thanks for your comment:
1. I will not comment on...Thanks for your comment:<br /><br />1. I will not comment on the Kantian distinction, since I am only presenting the ideas of Iqbal here, and Kant had obviously not read Iqbal :)<br /><br />2. Whether literature has a purpose or the writer; this depends on how we perceive literature. The implication here is that literature may have a life of its own. As long as that is understood, I am not so much concerned about holes in the language, since conventions of language keep changing and the age of Internet and blogs has turned them practically irrelevant at least outside the universities and classrooms.<br /><br />3. It is true that we cannot bind down a writer to be only optimistic. Thanks for making this important observation: this post or even the original theory of Iqbal is not for laying down any unreasonable restriction on the freedom of expression. It is just to point out that just as writers are free to express themselves, the society must also be informed about how to choose between the various dreams offered by various writers. We are not asking anybody not to write pessimistically if this is what they want to do. We are just asking the society not to follow them, and we are offering reasons why.<br /><br />4. <i>"Everyone has varying moods. Even Iqbal..."</i> I am afraid that I cannot see the connection between someone's "moods" and their literary output, once they are past the age of 13 (mentally).Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-74713691293788450582012-09-21T05:43:11.723+05:002012-09-21T05:43:11.723+05:00Essentially U R right but I want to pick a hole in...Essentially U R right but I want to pick a hole in the language.LITERATURE does not have a PURPOSE; it is the WRITER whose purpose determines the output and its effect on society.<br />Then comes the Kantian distinction between what is DESIRED and what is DESIRABLE. You can not bind down a writer to be only optimistic.Everyone has varying moods. Even Iqbal.....<br /> gspsuri@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-48495559845299986462012-09-21T02:43:31.895+05:002012-09-21T02:43:31.895+05:00Great words. I will forward it to all my friends a...Great words. I will forward it to all my friends and relatives.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01518591124764245633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-11005146771448883742012-09-20T02:25:52.242+05:002012-09-20T02:25:52.242+05:00Thank you Sir.
All good wishes,
robertThank you Sir.<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-51927505979455473482012-09-20T01:35:36.410+05:002012-09-20T01:35:36.410+05:00I shall post the link as soon as I get it. As far ...I shall post the link as soon as I get it. As far as I know, the interview has not yet been broadcast.Khurram Ali Shafiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15329916182280619617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-28761817404327856372012-09-19T17:29:58.954+05:002012-09-19T17:29:58.954+05:00Greetings,
This is excellent. It so strongly con...Greetings,<br /><br />This is excellent. It so strongly conveys the topic so well.<br /><br />You wrote:<br /><br />"...the primary cause of all the evils of a society - or the world - are rooted in its veneration of pessimistic and naturalistic literature. No matter what political course it adopts, or how religious and God-fearing it becomes, the society - or the world - is doomed to fail, and crash, unless it changes its literary preferences."<br /><br />This post makes it clear that those primarily culpable are indeed those same ones who may be, at this very moment, sitting in comfortable armchairs pointing at all that is (seemingly) bad in the world, going on and on about it, pulling in attention toward it, and (sometimes subtly, sometimes quite overtly) cordoning off awareness into cold, narrow, life-denigrating corridors.<br /><br />This veneration of pessimistic and naturalistic literature essentially sequesters consciousness into a groove of poison.<br /><br />Is it possible to listen to your interview? Even though I wouldn't be able to understand the Urdu, I would nonetheless very much like to hear it. The paraverbals and the feeling are what I would like to absorb.<br /><br />Thank you very much for this.<br /><br />All good wishes,<br /><br />robertroberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11393402288038226179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8751964279420308191.post-48536841702770486472012-09-19T15:42:07.009+05:002012-09-19T15:42:07.009+05:00I feel so deeply -- reading this especially succin...I feel so deeply -- reading this especially succinct and wise mini-essay that this is a profound description and prescription for our time -- world-wide. So clear and strong -- these words -- that I experience them as both from the core as well as transcendent in exposing our current and needed reality.CNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10877484524704475807noreply@blogger.com